Madonna is opening up like never before.
According to the report by Dailymail, in a preview for her upcoming appearance on the podcast, On Purpose with Jay Shetty, the Material Girl hitmaker, Madonna, 67, spoke candidly about the spiritual practices that have guided her through decades in the spotlight.
‘You need to be spiritual to be successful. Success is having a spiritual life, period. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have one,’ she told Shetty in the revealing conversation, obtained by People.
The pop icon explained that her journey began in the mid-1990s, shortly before welcoming her first child, Lourdes Leon, and that her discovery of Kabbalah in 1996 became a turning point in her life.
‘What have I done for others? That’s really the only way you can be successful in life,’ she said, stressing that her purpose has always been to ‘reveal light in the world’ through her work.
‘I want it all, but I want it for the sake of sharing, not to keep it for myself,’ the seven-time Grammy winner stressed.
Madonna, who has long been celebrated for challenging norms and using her platform to advocate for human rights, admitted she has had to overcome deep challenges along the way.
‘I was once a slave or victim of other people’s opinions of me,’ she reflected.
But over time, she’s embraced her individuality and that she doesn’t ‘fit in.’
‘Not fitting in is what saves you,’ she told listeners.
In the wide-ranging interview, the mother-of-six emphasized how spirituality sustains her not during moments of triumph, but in times of hardship.
‘Spiritual wisdom is not helpful when everything’s going your way. It’s helpful when you’re challenged and when you’re happy,’ she explained.
She continued: ‘It’s helpful to remember that at any given time, in any moment, it could be gone.
So don’t take it for granted. Have humility. Radical acceptance is just accepting that what is happening to you is meant to happen to you — and that you’re going to be okay.’
Later in the episode, Madonna was joined by her longtime Kabbalah teacher, Eitan Yardeni, as the two discuss their newly launched course, The Mystical Studies of the Zohar.
Kabbalah is a Jewish mystical philosophy and interpretive tradition.
It examines the symbolic and esoteric nature of God, creation, and the universe.
The word itself means ‘to receive.’
Its teachings draw on concepts such as the Sefirot (divine emanations) and the Tree of Life.
Together, these ideas are meant to help followers deepen their understanding of the divine and their relationship with God.
Madonna’s appearance on On Purpose with Jay Shetty marks her first-ever podcast interview